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本期嘉宾：华尔街英语中国区域总监Tim Russ、公共关系总监肖堰
访谈主持：孙莹莹
访谈时间：3月28日上午10点--11点半
访谈地点：爱词霸英语大讲堂嘉宾聊天室
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比如到俄国去，随着在俄语的环境里，你听不懂，如果不是专心去学习的话，你甚至去拒绝它，我就找一个中国人的环境待着，因为我实在听不懂，这样的例子太多了。所以他也是强调了这一点。同时为了怎么能坚持，就是尽量的有趣。哪怕学汉语也是这样。我找一帮朋友，谁要说英文，就罚钱。这样是非常的必要的。当年我们在学校学习英语的时候，也是没有英语语言的环境。比如我们会尽量的听一些广播，看一个我们觉得能看得懂的节目。然后看报纸，那时候就只有中国日报，看我们能看懂的文章。我每周坚持看两篇文章。比如说听英文的歌曲，听我觉得比较懂的，选择一些这样的。坚持去听，只要是坚持一段时间，都会有收获的。42 楼 Date:2008-03-28 10:54:37
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其实英语学习就是日积月累，潜移默化的过程。43 楼 Date:2008-03-28 10:56:39
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华尔街英语就是按照这样的规律，创造一个非常典型的环境。一进门，就根据你的级别，有符合你水平的学员跟你去交流。不要说汉语，尽可能用英文说。一直到实验室学习，到补充课，社交俱乐部，同一个级别，到相近的级别，就一定不会让你感到听不懂。
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这是华尔街英语一个很大的竞争优势？45 楼 Date:2008-03-28 10:57:17
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是的。46 楼 Date:2008-03-28 10:57:43
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the key we always says is systematic,many researchers of language said that one of the average number to learn one word, you need to use it 17 times, listening, speaking, reading and writing. so every time the environment is sth different, that is always very interesting, but we forget it mere. so the key is that whatever we learn today we have a chance to practice tomorrow or next week, or next month, and i think that's the key thing as well. so that the language become affective,otherwise, we keep learning new words, but we keep forgeting old words. and it's really becoming a waste as well. so i think that's really what we talk about the systematic environment. and one word we often use is recycle, so that we have a very deep feeling and understanding of the word.
华尔街英语另外一大优势就是强化记忆。我们中国同学的英语，可能存在一些缺陷，昨天学习几个英语单词，三天记得住，但是一个月以后问就可能忘记。华尔街英语针对这样的记忆现象，做特别的培训，来进行反复的训练。比如water，我们让它深深的植根于我们的脑海中。47 楼 Date:2008-03-28 10:59:07 -
就是系统性，通过循环的使用，听说读写的环节，通过语言学家的研究证明。一个字要使用17遍，就不太容易被忘记了。这种17遍也不是刻意的，通过循环系统的设计，通过听说读写的训练，是很正常的，一般到17遍的循环使用，就不会太忘记了。48 楼 Date:2008-03-28 10:59:18
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我们下面一个问题很尖锐，他问，你能给我们介绍一下华尔街英语的教学理念吗？对于昂贵的学费而言，效果和收费水平可以达到平衡吗？49 楼 Date:2008-03-28 10:59:31
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from the very simple idea, it's language for communication, this is no.1. you know, we don't teach for test, we teach for using english.
and we call it a total multi-method system, so many methods but systematicly put together, listening, speaking, reading and writing. so systematic environments, i think this is very important, and at the personal level. so we talk about in ws, we talk about the 17 major levels of english. actually we have 68, going from the very begining of learning ABC to almost mother language level. so each person is at the level exactlly suit for them, so this is very personal environment. and the learning they do is all connected,is all related to each other. so that what you listening today, you have a chance to practice tomorrow, to use the next time. the found teacher classes are related to the listening, to the homework than you do. and it's all part of one very sentific system for you to improve.but always to make sure that you are not just understand or remember, but you can use this language in a real day to day situation. so how can we control this at every points of the students' study, we will check, we will check and measure can the students do this, canthe students use the major language, have they master and understood the language. if not, it's ok, we ask him to go back again before they go to the next level. so this is really the guarantee of the quality and the results. so would you not allow the students keeping studying, if we feel that they haven't mastered and understood the major language for this level. and that way we can have this step by step learning system and learning process.
是个好问题。华尔街英语课程是非常具有系统性的。首先是分成了不同的模块，比如听说读写各个方面。也是根据学员的不同的英语水平，不同的层级进行划分的。比如说像我们刚才所说的，分成17个级别，还分成了60个单元。不仅是细化的分类，华尔街英语的老师还为我们学员着想，还反复的验证我们学员的学习水平。也许在这个阶段OK了，下一个月还可以做一些测试，来验证学习的效果，所以真的是物有所值吧。
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肖老师还有什么补充吗？51 楼 Date:2008-03-28 11:03:31
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作为全球的著名的英语培训机构。首先学习方法，学习系统，学习理念，根据我的了解，应该是少有的，通过我们自我研发的。在36年间，不断的演变，不断的更新。根据27个国家和地区的需求，还有相应的本土化的改造，这个过程完全是我们自主掌握，自主研发，自己管理，自己提供服务。这是一整套流程，而不像很多的培训机构，是买一个别人的系统，我们在中国经营和运营，或者通过连锁加盟的方式。所以我觉得这是我们价值的体现。
再一个，包括它现在选址，在全球各国都是这样的。每在一个城市，都是当地最繁华的，交通最便利的地方设点，根据学员的住址或者是工作单位去设不同的点。而一旦设立点之后，这套系统就非常标准化的运营起来。而不是说到了不同的地方会有不同的标准。52 楼 Date:2008-03-28 11:04:42 -
从师资和工作人员，我们教师是全球招聘。Tim从英格兰过来，我们的相对的来说，外教的水准和要求会很高。从设点来讲，在写字楼里，环境比较舒适，条件比较好的写字楼设点，本身的费用就会比较高。同时最主要的一点，是全天候的为学员开放。学员随时来学习都可以，早晨我们的学员不是很多，但是我们这种承诺，就得开放，有一个学员我们也会提供这样的服务。这样全天候的服务，本身的成本也是在那的。所以这一系列的因素来考虑，我觉得这个选择，就由学习爱好者去选择了。当然有中端的，有低端的，完全取决于英语爱好者了。
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有一个词友问，商务英语的口语考试应该怎样准备呢？54 楼 Date:2008-03-28 11:05:39
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i think for me, one verybig misunderstanding in china is that spoken english is different from english.spoken english is part of english, it's actually the most difficult part. and that's why for us when we test people's english in ws, we test the spoken english. because basically if you can speak and use the language, for short you can understand, you can read and you can write. but spoken english and writing is very much the active parts of learning. you know reading, listening is mmore passive, speaking and writing is more active. and there is only one way:keep speaking, keep practicing, and keep using. but if you can to practice you spoken english, you have to systematicly practice. if you are practicing for a business english test, and every you talk about the weather, it doesn't help you. so you got to practice and speak at a level that you are going to need for the test. and prctice not just only on word, but on topics. so we could be today you gonna talk about marketing. have a discussion on marketing, focusing on the key words and the key ideas. focus on the finance and focus on the key words. and just really get use to speaking and practicing. and ask the next person, so you have to do this by with another person. so you need somebody to prepare what is their fonud teacher,or found a heishtest level, and you have to be prepared to respond quickly. i'v interviewed many peple,in english ,chinese, and see many tests. and they come prepared for the exact questions. they take the whole page, and they remember the whole anwsers. but as soon you ask a diggerent question, they don't know what to do, because they haven't remember that. because real english, every time we are asking questions, we are responding, we are not remembering one sentence, we taking different words and language and put them together. so i think the key for me is that you'v got to practice in a real situation, you'v got to get the other person to ask you many questions, make it difficult, so that you feel ready for one you do the spoken test.
口语考试其实并不是脱离于一般的英语考试之外的。口语也是一般英语其中一部分，这也是华尔街英语的教学理念吧。整个口语的训练，或者这种技能的提高，一定是要靠互动的交流，而不是靠记忆。最基本的技能就是你和对话者他提问，你回答，就是一个不断的反复，不断的互动来体现你的技能。比如说面试，用英语参加面试的人，感觉更多的是靠记忆。事先准备的问题，一旦按照这个问题去提的时候，他能回答，因为他记住了。但是一旦转换一种角度去提问，就没法回答了。就看出，他是用语言技没能达到的程度，而是靠记忆。这是中国的学习者常见的问题。55 楼 Date:2008-03-28 11:16:43 -
我再延伸Tim的观点。咱们一定要反思，我们学汉语是怎么学的？这个就是华尔街英语的理念，就是像学母语一样学英语。这不是我们宣传的概念，是的的确确在我们的系统设计当中，我们在全球培养了两百多万的学员，而且都是不同国家地域遇到的问题。在这个基础上，总结出来的教学理念，教学的方法，技术的运用。来切实让你得到一个感觉，就是像学母语一样学习英语。是一个学习的过程，而不是记忆的过程。所以英语一定不要把它神秘化，把它顶礼膜拜，就是无疑于汉语的一种语言。一定是基于你对文化的理解，阅历，当然也有语言技能的提高。就是种种方面的综合，来体现你的语言技能。但是基础就是，一定要有语言技能，在语言基本技能的基础上，你再去提高你的交流的能力。所以语言就是为了交流。56 楼 Date:2008-03-28 11:17:36
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所以我们要解放思想，就是像母语一样的学习英语。57 楼 Date:2008-03-28 11:17:51
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当然通过这个过程当中，通过华尔街英语专业的培训机构，每一个环节有精心的设计，通过我们的设计，来帮助你在学习的过程当中，能够有效，能够更快，也是能够有乐趣。58 楼 Date:2008-03-28 11:18:04
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也是华尔街英语的竞争优势。时间关系，我们的互动就此结束。非常感谢两位老师对广大词友问题的回答。再次感谢两位的精采讲解。通过两位专家的讲解，我们对商务英语的了解更清晰了，另外我们对华尔街英语也有了更深的认识。接下来请两位老师分享一下他们喜欢的英文歌曲和英文句子。然后通过我们爱词霸两个火爆的栏目《歌曲周刊》和《每日一句》来发布，让更多的词友分享两位老师的快乐。59 楼 Date:2008-03-28 11:21:44
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也是华尔街英语的竞争优势。时间关系，我们的互动就此结束。非常感谢两位老师对广大词友问题的回答。再次感谢两位的精采讲解。通过两位专家的讲解，我们对商务英语的了解更清晰了，另外我们对华尔街英语也有了更深的认识。接下来请两位老师分享一下他们喜欢的英文歌曲和英文句子。然后通过我们爱词霸两个火爆的栏目《歌曲周刊》和《每日一句》来发布，让更多的词友分享两位老师的快乐。60 楼 Date:2008-03-28 11:21:47
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i'll take one song that i think it is also very famous in china, it's not a very happy song, it's called "candle in the wind", this is actual written for Marilyn Monroe first, but i think most people know it because of princes Diana. so was rewritten again because of her. and it seems to me you lived your life like a candle in the wind. and i think it's also good for the chinese learner, because it not just a simple sentence, you have to use your imagination.
我喜欢《candle in the wind》。对中国的英语学习爱好者来说，想学一门语言的时候，如果深入了解它的背景，又了解它所蕴含的意思，你对于整个的理解就会更加的透彻，所以无疑于学汉语一样。61 楼 Date:2008-03-28 11:22:18
