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秘贴预言3亿大奖,官方是否有猫腻?
The mysterious poster made a prediction of 300 million Yuan; do you believe the government has played tricks?

前段时间河南一人独中88注福彩大奖,总奖金高达3.5亿,一时间闹的沸沸扬扬网上关于此事的帖子也是络绎不绝.这几天到处都是关于此事的消息,所以也特别关注了一下.下面我就把我看到的情况告诉大家,大家自己想想看福彩中出3亿巨奖是穿越时空还是内部操纵?  
A few days ago, someone in Henan Province won the jackpot from 88 welfare lottery tickets, with the prize of as much as 350 million RMB. It ensured continuous posters permeating over the internet. There is information about this hither and thither, so I paid particular attention to it and would like inform what I have found out. Let us consider whether it is travelling through time and space or under the manipulation to win the price of 300 million RMB.

巧合1:921有人发帖中3亿该怎么花   
巧合2:此人IP地址为河南
   
巧合3:帖子中写的买彩票注数基本与实际情况相符
   
巧合4:103百度知道里也有类似问题,问中3亿该怎么花(由于此问题已经被删暂时我们可以不把它算在内了
)   
巧合5:107也就是开奖前一天,发帖人怕帖子沉了,在与39楼时隔9天之后自己把帖子顶了起来
   
巧合6:刚好掏空上期奖池.  


Coincidence 1: Someone opened a poster on how to spend 300 million RMB on Sep. 21st;
Coincidence 2: His IP address is in Henan;
Coincidence 3: The number of the lottery is in accordance with the real condition;
Coincidence 4: There are similar questions on Baidu Knows on Oct. 3rd, asking how to spend 300 million RMB (Since these questions have been deleted, they won’t be taken in to account.)
Coincidence 5: One day before the lottery was released, i.e. Oct.7th, someone supported 39th floor in the poster 9 days later.  
Coincidence 6: The amount of the prize is exactly what they have in the previous lottery.


神秘贴预言3亿大奖,是否身官方有猫腻?欢迎大家讨论
The mysterious poster made a prediction of 300 million Yuan; do you believe the government has played tricks? Welcome to join in the discussion.

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本期话题翻译:jackie0783


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楼主 Date: 2009-11-02 09:29:37
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3亿大奖,是否有毛腻?

For the 300 millions Yuan jackpot, Is there any cheat?


对此问题,我没有任何主意,或许是真的有毛腻,但我宁可相信只是巧合!如果真相大白了,

对那些渴望中奖的人来说,是一种不小的打击。

For this question, I have no idea, Perhaps it's true, but I would rather believe it's just happen to be. Think, if it's really truth, It will be a Critical Strike to those people who wants to win a prize.


因为真相就是杀手!

Because the truth is a killer.


对于中奖,我不会报有任何希望,我从来不去赌,人生不能只靠运气,要靠努力!

不是你的,你永远也得不到,是你的,跑也跑不掉!

For winning a price in a lottery, I never expect it would happen to me, I never bet. The life can not only depends on the luck, but needs work hard. You can never get the thing which is not belong to you. Also the thing belongs to you will never runs away from you.


文章中列出了种种理由来证明有毛腻的嫌疑,可我认为,如果真是如大家所想,那中奖人提前预知自己会中奖,这可不是小事而已,有必要出疯头,让大家来猜疑吗?有必要要让全中国人都心不安吗?

The article shows us so many suspicious examples. But I think, if it's really like everybody thought that the winner would know himself would be a winner, then why does he have to show that to everybody in order to let everybody doubts him? Why does he have to let all Chinese feel upset? After all it's not a small thing!


我想这只巧合吧,请大家也这么认为吧,这样心里会舒服一些,对吧!

I think it's just happen to be, hope everybody will think so too. Maybe you will feel easier, right?

其实,中大奖,真有那么好吗?我看未必,钱是好东西,人人都需要,可是过多的钱,只会给你带来灾难。小偷,抢劫的,图财害命的等,都会盯上你。以前对你不冷不热的亲朋好友都想跟你来分一杯羹。而你自己也因为太有钱,而忘了自我,迫不急待地去拥有以前渴望的东西。。。。。。总之,你的人生就从此改变了。或许,你天天生活危险之中,心惊胆颤之中。。。。

In fact, to win a price in a lottery is a really good thing? I don't think so, of course, The money is good, everybody needs it. But too much money can only bring the disaster to us. Thieves,robbers, money killers... would look at you. Those your friends or relatives who were not so friendly to you would share the Benefits with you. And yourself also because you are too rich to remember who you are. You can't wait to get everything you wanted before … anyway your life would be changed since then. Maybe your life will be full with dangerous, terror-stricken...


这样的不劳之财,我宁可不要!

我要平平安安的过一生!

This kind of money without working I would rather give them up.

I just want a safe life


脱离话题,抱歉!


最后由 dalongtime0 于 2009-11-02 18:20:26编辑
沙发 Date: 2009-11-02 09:30:03
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记得大学时期高等数学概率论课本上把某种极小的可能甚至不可能发生的事件称为“小概率事件”。统计学上可以将它忽略不计,因为几乎不可能发生。
A very small or impossible event can be referred to as "small probability event"
according to the probability theory of higher mathematics in college. Statistically it can be ignored.

在我看来,生活中往往有些不期而遇的事情突然浮现。关于中奖,是虚构的传说也好,是真实的故事也好,如此具有震憾力的利好事件吸引着成千上万的人们到体彩、福彩中来。
In my opinion, sometimes you may run across some things in life.Lottery software,wether it
is a fiction legend or a true story, is so shocking that it attracted tens of thousands of people to buy sports lottery and the welfare lottery .

人们总是愿意让好事发生在自己身上。有利的事,人们趋之若骛;有害的事,人们纷纷躲避。彩票业经常利用人们的这种心理。人追求利好的本性决定了他们摆脱不了对这种“小概率事件”的影响。
People are always willing to let good things happen to them. They go after those profitable
things like a flock of ducks and evade those harmful things.Lottery industry always make use of this kind of psychological.The nature of seeking benefit makes people could not escape the effect of "small probability event".

某某买彩票中了奖,一传十、十传百,一直传下去全国都知道了。尽管可能是子虚乌有,这样传来传去,好象中奖的机会很大,买的人自然就多了。
If someone won a prize in a lottery, it spreads from one to ten, ten to one hundred and is
known in the whole country.Even though it may be non-existent, but it mislead people to think that there are a lot chance of winning, naturally more people to buy lottery.

所以这种罕见事情的发生,表面上是小概率事件,其实有可能是一件有预谋的造假事件。理论上摇奖设备和电脑程序都是可以人为操作的。
Therefore, it apparently is a small probability event, in fact it may be a premeditated
fraudful behaviour.In theory,lottery equipments and computer programs can all be controlled artificially.

类似的事件不是没有。不要忘记2000年贵州彩票舞弊案,2001年湖北体彩舞弊案,2004年陕西“彩票案”,2005年海南体彩舞弊事件,2009年7月深圳福彩巨奖舞弊案。
Some similar incidents are:the 2000 lottery fraud in Guizhou, 2001 sports lottery fraud in
Hubei,2004 "BMW lottery fraud" in Shanxi,2005 sports lottery fraud in Hainan and 2009 welfare lottery fraud in Shenzhen.

透过一个个小概率事件,人们会发现其背后所反映或隐藏的大问题。正面的小概率事件对于社会进步的积极意义不言而喻,负面的小概率事件对于社会建设的消极影响尤为需要引起我们警惕与反思。
Through a small probability event, you can find the big problem hidden it. A positive small
probability event is good for social,a negative one is bad for social.We should be caution and careful.



最后由 changheyidai 于 2009-11-02 15:24:46编辑
板凳 Date: 2009-11-02 09:31:47
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the lucky man who was win 300 million RMB had attract a lot of people . of course , 300 million RMB is not a small sum .who has 300 million RMB that he can to anything . but i hadn't pay attention to it , because the winner is not me , and it is not relation with me .
那个中了3亿大奖的幸运的男人的确吸引了很多人。当然,3亿元可不是一个小数目。谁有3亿元都可以做很任何事。但我没有太关注这件事,因为中奖的不是我,也与我没有关系。
but now , the topic is about the price and whether the government had play tricks . yes , maybe the price of as much as 350 million RMB seems actually too much, and it's hard too let people ignore it. so i think people have right to know the truth . if the winner really depend on his good luck , people will congratulations to him, but if his luck is depend on government's play tricks . people would  feel angry , and government would also hurt people's heart.
但是现在这个话题却是关于奖金和政府是否有猫腻的问题。的确,也许350的奖金的确太高,这很难让人不去注意它。所以我想人们有权了解事情的真实性。如果中奖的人的确是靠运气的话,人们会祝贺他;但如果他的运气是依赖官方作假的话,人们会感到很愤怒,政府也会伤害人们的心!
from the coincidence above, it's so hard make people to believe that the winner had win 300 million RMB just depend on his good luck. even though that just my thought , but i think most of people will the same to me.
但从上面的巧合来看,很难让人们相信中奖者获得300亿的奖金只是靠他的运气得来的。虽然那只是我的想法,但我想大部分人会和我有一样的想法。

最后由 杨柳花开 于 2009-11-02 16:32:53编辑
4 Date: 2009-11-02 09:34:16
In fact, winning, who did not want to, but only that they have no luck, and their lucky, they might be winning his own bad luck, luck can only be bought with the money just

其实中奖,谁不想,只看自己有没有那个运气了,自己运气好,就可能会中奖,自己运气不好,只能是用钱来买运气而已

Has recently been reported, it is real, feeling okay, there is no speculation, it is fortunate that in China, which might be of such a prize. But really wish to, China is really too rich and the poor, so that led to so many people want to dream of getting rich, we are serious about wanting this, China will not have cheating phenomenon? It is impossible.

最近已经报道了,是真实的,感觉还好,没有炒作,很庆幸,在中国也有人可以中如此的大奖。但认真的想下,中国真的太贫富悬殊了,所以才导致那么多人想发财梦,我们是该认真想下,中国不会有作弊现象吗?那是不可能的。
最后由 冰姿若雪 于 2009-11-02 09:43:24编辑
5 Date: 2009-11-02 09:36:17
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The mysterious poster made a prediction of 300 million Yuan; do you believe the government has played tricks?

秘贴预言3亿大奖,官方是否有猫腻?

Oh my godthat’s incredible !

天啊,真是让人难以置信!

Actually, I had bought lottery for more five years. So I know lots of about that. Seriously, in my opinion, the lottery is controlled by official bodies , I mean that he can control the number of lottery. May be somebody are can’t believe, yes, I can’t believe that before. But for this time, I prefer trust more that.

事实上,我已经买了5年多的彩票了,所以我知道很多关于彩票的事,说真的,我认为这个彩票是被官方机构所控制的,我的意思是他们可以控制彩票的号码。也许有些人不相信,是的,我以前也不相信,但是这一次,我宁愿更相信这是事实。

There are so many coincidence in the lottery, so let so many people can’t believe this anymore. And many people doubt the truth of lottery.

彩票中有太多的巧合,所以让人们不再敢相信,并且对彩票的真实性产生了怀疑。

But even so that , there still many people to buy lottery, because it’s fill of large temptation on the lottery.

但是即使是这样,仍然还是有很多人去买彩票,因为彩票充满了巨大的诱惑!

but for this mysterious a prediction, may be that Just is a coincidence, I hope so.

But for these coincidence, I can’t find the right reason make me to trust this is real.

I have no idea to persuade myself.

但是对于这个语言,也许是个巧合,我希望如此。但是对于这些巧合,我找不到合适的理由让我去相信这是真的,我没办法说服自己.

However, things already be happened ,some people are begrudged, admired, whatever you think ,the money is belong to others. So we just happy for him. Isn’t!

到此为此把,事情已经发生,有些人嫉妒,羡慕,不管你怎么想,钱是别人的。所以我们只能是为别人高兴,不是吗!


最后由 mitch0708 于 2009-11-02 16:07:04编辑
6 Date: 2009-11-02 09:40:54
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good morning 猪
few days ago,we heard someone in Henan Province won a welfare lottery ticket worth more than 350 million RMB
ah... what a big fortune the lucky guy has,i admire and envy him(haha,just a joke)

nowadays with the speedy development of our society,more and more people are in pursuit for wealth,most of them have a fortune dream ,lottery is also a kind of public welfare while the person dreams to gain wealth from it
with the better improved life condition of the common people,people like to be actively involved in the lottery ,which gives them a hint that they can become a member of rich men in the society by winning the lottery tickets
for some person,they even regard it a fast way to escape from poverty,a speedy way to become more wealthy
someone relied too much on the lottery tickets
someone even regards it as a lifetime career
they devoted all their time to the lottery tickets
they dreamt they could be a top wealth person one day by winning the lottery
someone really materialized their goals
in my viewpoints,lottery really leaves a lot of significant influence on people's mentality and life,good or terrible
lottery always  imply someone who always share the concept of obtaining without doing that they can have a good fortune  by insisting in buying it
they didn't give up buying lottery tickets,they will sit in chair to wait for the result of the lottery tickets,once they failed ,they won't be too upset,they will encourage themselves to be more attentive and persistent to it till the day they won,if they taste some sweet from the lottery,they attached more importance to lottery career,because they are dreaming for a big fortune one day
for me,it is so frequent for me to hear the news who earned a big lottery ticket on TV program or noticed from the radio
i didn't doubt about its facticity before,i think for such a big amount of fortune,it is possible to exist in welfare lottery
and as we know people can buy the same ticket No for many times they'd like
so if one of theirs won the lottery ,it means the rest they bought also won the same amount of money,so summed it together,it isn't difficult to see what a big fortune they earned
i think for such a matter,people shouldn't  take it too seriously,maybe it is just a kind of lottery game,maybe has nothing too much to do with the tricks the government played
but i think it is also a good tendency of political issues and country issues,people will doubt about government ,it means the common people is becoming more actively involved in the things which happened around us,and also show their disagreement and disputes over the government issues
it also reflects government should pay more attention to practical policy and practical actions to improve people's life,and make the market more stable and jural
so that when considering the big lottery ,they won't be criticized by the common people
for the rest of people,don't doubt about others' fortune ,maybe they are too lucky,but the truth is they are the only one who won the lottery
haha
if you want to have such a luck,maybe you can join in it
but don't rely on it too much
wealth should be created by yourselves,don't always dream reaping without sowing顶
最后由 jessiesw 于 2009-11-03 09:11:21编辑
7 Date: 2009-11-02 09:54:26
    I tend to view it as a coincidence. I do believe that some daydreamers would post such topic in the forum. My boyfriend asked me several times what he should do if he hits the jackpot since he has the habit to buy lottery. Personally, I don’t think such investment is wise or effective. But I don’t suggest him give up this hobby. Anyway, it makes his life a little more colorful. Even he might be the guy who started the stupid discussion about how to spend the huge amount of money once he would win it. Why can’t others?
    Frankly speaking, I don’t care much about others’ business. Whether the government has played tricks or not is not the thing I would concern about. I have so many things to deal with. Lottery matters don’t belong to my life circle. I think I am that kind of people who have narrow range of concentration. When I am walking on the street, I never join the people who are watching the scene of bustle. And I would be annoyed if my boyfriend joins them (he always seems interested…). I would drag him away without any words. Maybe I have bias towards this kind of behavior. I think only people with low quality or the ones who have nothing to do would show so much interest to others’ affairs.
    Chinese people have the tradition to be the bystanders when an accident occurs. As I see it, that is the cruelest deed. What we should do is to call the police, not just stand there but do nothing except blocking the traffic. Back to today’s topic, if someone really thinks the government has done something indecent, he needs to get admissible evidence, not to publish a guess on the Internet.  Sometimes the public is blind,  they tend to believe bad news. the poster would arouse the new wave of discontent towards the government. What's the meaning of that result anyway? To make our lives more colorful? Nonsense!

最后由 scpengsisi 于 2009-11-02 11:04:21编辑
8 Date: 2009-11-02 09:54:46
i can't believe that.
9 Date: 2009-11-02 10:01:49
hahaha ,yesterday i just talked about this topic with my boyfriend .He said it's impossible to believe,there must have problem in it.May be.
10 Date: 2009-11-02 10:08:48
I'm coming!
11 Date: 2009-11-02 10:15:12
I haven't doubted about this issue before, I just think this guy is way too lucky, but now, maybe I should re-think about it.
以前我还真没怀疑过,只是觉得这个家伙太幸运了,现在,也许我得重新考虑下了。
Maybe many people are wondering where all the lottery income go? There is no real winner in this game, whatever, I don't buy lottery, I know I cann't get anything from it. So maybe government wants to fool all people that someone has won the prize, so pls go on buying it, you also have the chance.
也许很多人都在想这么多彩票收入都去了哪里?这个游戏里也许根本没有赢家,不管怎样,我是不买彩票,我知道自己也不会得到什么。所以政府想通过这种方式愚弄人们,已经有人中奖了,继续买吧,你也有机会。
Guess only. Hehe
只是猜的,呵呵。
最后由 crystalyao84 于 2009-11-02 10:31:34编辑
12 Date: 2009-11-02 10:19:57
hi,morning,everyone
13 Date: 2009-11-02 10:21:30
en, i nearly know nothing about it and the lottery. not interesting in it. or i should say have no spare money on it. or that's just for fun and lucky. and i don't believe in it.
this is difficult to say. i remember that the cheating in shanxi (or one other city?) was so serious and had a lot of news, right? from that time on, i know the lottery can cheat too. damn!
oh, i have no opinion about it....
14 Date: 2009-11-02 10:22:27
Hello, everyone
15 Date: 2009-11-02 10:31:05
I don't believe it
16 Date: 2009-11-02 10:34:07
O(∩_∩)O~
i am coming
最后由 jessiesw 于 2009-11-03 09:14:17编辑
17 Date: 2009-11-02 10:34:42
Nice guess, but my question is why the lottery riggers would've exposed the cheating by posting a forecast on the web as if they were afraid nobody could've spotted the clues of the rigged result? Remember they were old hands at this, they won't create troubles and take the hit.
最后由 alongtheramp 于 2009-11-02 10:41:49编辑
18 Date: 2009-11-02 10:39:19
顶 I think so!
19 Date: 2009-11-02 11:02:59
It's hard to say!It's hard to say.
20 Date: 2009-11-02 11:20:15
比较赞同上面有网友提到的观点: 还是不要最终爆出幕后的好,
一是让广大彩名寒心;
二是这么高金额如有问题基本离不开个别地方政府官员操控,那个站出来提钱的基本上就是牺牲品,大家一年后关注下此人还在否?
关于3亿¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥用于设想:很有可能是什么地方资金亏空,而这个亏空又不得不需要堵上的;所以发生此类事件。
(本设想纯粹虚构,如有雷同纯属巧合) Me可不承担法律责任。民不与官斗!酷
21 Date: 2009-11-02 11:21:24
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